Socrates discusses how he plans to control what stories may be told, and what stories must be "thrown out." He declares that storytellers must be "supervised," and the only sufficient stories are ones that "are fine or beautiful... since they will shape... children's souls" (53). He plans to censor stories that give "a bad image of what the gods and heroes are like," for fear that examples of these mythic figures' debauchery, violence, unvirtuousness, and the like, will create a bad example for young people to follow (53-54). Socrates' willingness to selectively censor the literary/poetic canon of his city's inhabitants, in an attempt to hide any and all notions of bad behavior, is somewhat disturbing. This act of censorship seems quite Orwellian, and to me echoes some of the reasoning certain folks have when trying to ban or censor books today.
Socrates continues his reasoning for banning certain stories, not only wanting to ban stories of war crimes or the licentious pursuits of the gods, but of excessive laughter, appetite, etc, in an effort to encourage moderation among his citizens. He emphasizes self-control. While I agree that moderation, applied to certain aspects of life, is generally a good practice, the fact that Socrates wishes to control and censor the media consumed by his residents in order to keep them loyal, unfeeling, and "moderate," is worrisome. He decides what the truth is. To me, this seems like the erasure of passion, and he pursues this desire to erase passion, in his specific discussions of the "guardians" dispatched to lead the city, of their education, of the types of music played, etc. To Socrates, censorship is a utopian necessity, in other to keep his citizens mild, emotionless blobs. The classic Greek stories of the gods getting into less than savory activities must be hidden from this city's constituents, because "they are harmful to people who hear them, for everyone will be ready to excuse himself when he's bad... For that reason, we must put a stop to such stories, lest they produce in the young a strong inclination to do bad things" (68).
Does Socrates, the self-imposed founder of the city become the person that decides what is good or bad? What myths are too sexy to be seen? Who determines who decides? His city is based censorship and control of his citizens. He plans to manipulate the media, to hide many of the stories central to the literary canon from the city's unwitting residents in order to keep them completely dispassionate, boring, blah. Bummer!

I agree with your statement that this level of censorship is disturbing. Is it moral or just to censor stories, even if the intention is to create a just society? What is being lost by removing certain stories from the society? In my opinion, stories that include vile acts can teach us more about the benefits of virtue. These sorts of stories provide examples of what destruction may be wrought when a person does "bad" things.
ReplyDeleteFirst, I really like the title of your post because it goes back to what we all talked about during our first discussion: how can we ever form a utopia when everyone has different ideas on what would make a place a good one? What might seem like a great idea for some, may sound awful to others. In this case, the utopia that Socrates creates seems awful to all of us! I also completely agree with you about the censorship. It just doesn't seem logical to keep those stories from the children. They need those stories to learn the difference between right and wrong, and how to deal with the wide range of feelings that they will inevitably feel in their lifetime. It's human nature and no amount of censorship can prevent that.
ReplyDeleteI had way too much fun pondering "mild, emotionless blobs" while reading this. I think that all of these arguments could support the theory that there is no one 'utopia' and that while it can be described as "social dreaming," the only 'social' aspect of utopia references a fictional society rather than a real one.
ReplyDeleteI really liked how you highlighted the impact that censorship can have when considering what a Utopia is. It seems like if aspects of society like censorship exist, then the individual may be loss in a Utopia. It does not appear to theoretically be possible for a Utopia to exist if people are not able to be creative and express their ideas. In our own current society in America we have 'Freedom of Speech,' and if a place existed where that is not permitted, then I do not believe many people would consider that a Utopia without those rights.
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